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Re: Shel Silverstein的儿童诗
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标  题: Re: Shel Silverstein的儿童诗
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 16 15:38:11 2012, 美东)

诗很喜欢,插画我觉得可以更彩色可爱些,这些附件里的画更像大人欣赏的。不过可能
是我被女儿的口味同化了,她喜欢色彩斑斓的可爱画面。

第一首有点忧伤,很有余味。孩子都喜欢屁股和private parts,哈哈,给你贴个杭州
儿童公园里的美人鱼海豚转盘,不知道你们去过没有,我们孩子一见钟情,从此老爱说
mermaid's butts, mermaid's butts,编歌谣一样念得很有节奏。小孩的确喜欢有节奏
音韵的文字,老大学中文最快最喜欢的是你拍一我拍一这些儿歌,老二没教他都跟着念
,受感染。

哀伤、阴暗、死亡、恐怖也是小孩的兴趣热点噢,安徒生格林童话里有很多,我们小孩
最爱看的小书里也有monster, nightmare, wild things这些。你这个snowman让我想起
那个挺出名的德国动画片snowman,我以前还写过帖子,youtube上有的看,二十分钟左
右,我们全家都喜欢,跟雪孩子一样很伤感,哈哈。

你真有耐心,记下那么多。我回头找他的书来看。我们老大现在每天的作业就是读书二
十分钟。美国教育真重视广泛阅读,不求背诵记忆,你看他们从来没什么古诗词要背,
高中才学莎士比亚也不要求背。国内小孩背诵多,阅读相对少。对了我们图书馆还有专
门一栏书是获得儿童文学奖的,有两类,一类是连环画,是Caldecott Medal奖;另一
类是teenager读物,我没记住奖项名称。这些得奖作品的确文字图画都很出色,我一直
想推荐给goldy看。


【 在 aiyayayaya (偶尔想起) 的大作中提到: 】
: (刚发给K12俱乐部给孩子爸妈看。这里有孩的人家也爱读他的诗吗?他给花花公子画
: 过漫画, 我还没见过。)
: 我第一次听说他的诗,还是大孩子才1,2岁的时候,一天电视节目'NOGGING'读了
: 首他的"Ickle Me, Pickle Me, Tickle Me Too", 一个男声慢慢地读, 语调很幽
默,
: 那些字在一起听起来格外上口,好玩, 讲的内容又有点怪异荒诞,我很喜欢:
: Ickle Me, Pickle Me, Tickle Me too
: Went for a ride in a flying shoe.
: "Hooray!"
: "What fun!"
: "It's time we flew!"
: ...................



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标  题: Re: Shel Silverstein的儿童诗
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 16 20:49:52 2012, 美东)

忘了加照片:

【 在 wh (wh) 的大作中提到: 】
: 诗很喜欢,插画我觉得可以更彩色可爱些,这些附件里的画更像大人欣赏的。不过可能
: 是我被女儿的口味同化了,她喜欢色彩斑斓的可爱画面。
: 第一首有点忧伤,很有余味。孩子都喜欢屁股和private parts,哈哈,给你贴个杭州
: 儿童公园里的美人鱼海豚转盘,不知道你们去过没有,我们孩子一见钟情,从此老爱说
: mermaid's butts, mermaid's butts,编歌谣一样念得很有节奏。小孩的确喜欢有节奏
: 音韵的文字,老大学中文最快最喜欢的是你拍一我拍一这些儿歌,老二没教他都跟着念
: ,受感染。
: 哀伤、阴暗、死亡、恐怖也是小孩的兴趣热点噢,安徒生格林童话里有很多,我们小孩
: 最爱看的小书里也有monster, nightmare, wild things这些。你这个snowman让我想起
: 那个挺出名的德国动画片snowman,我以前还写过帖子,youtube上有的看,二十分钟左
: ...................



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标  题: Re: Shel Silverstein的儿童诗
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Sep 27 17:32:06 2014, 美东)

我姊姊送給我where the sideway ends 我很喜歡他的詩 雖然有一些不懂他想說什麼
但覺得他的詩很有想像力 小孩大點會給他們讀

【 在 aiyayayaya (偶尔想起) 的大作中提到: 】
: (刚发给K12俱乐部给孩子爸妈看。这里有孩的人家也爱读他的诗吗?他给花花公子画
: 过漫画, 我还没见过。)
: 我第一次听说他的诗,还是大孩子才1,2岁的时候,一天电视节目'NOGGING'读了
: 首他的"Ickle Me, Pickle Me, Tickle Me Too", 一个男声慢慢地读, 语调很幽
默,
: 那些字在一起听起来格外上口,好玩, 讲的内容又有点怪异荒诞,我很喜欢:
: Ickle Me, Pickle Me, Tickle Me too
: Went for a ride in a flying shoe.
: "Hooray!"
: "What fun!"
: "It's time we flew!"
: ...................



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标  题: Re: Shel Silverstein的儿童诗
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Sep 27 19:52:02 2014, 美东)

赞!喜欢他的诗!
我们哥三本都看过。我也读过。(我知道Shel Silverstein还是我们哥介绍的,汗!)
上几个有趣的。Well, 最后两个其实很sad.


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标  题: Re: Shel Silverstein的儿童诗
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Sep 27 20:54:03 2014, 美东)

嫉妒你……还有姐……

【 在 Bremen (獨孤求坑) 的大作中提到: 】
: 我姊姊送給我where the sideway ends 我很喜歡他的詩 雖然有一些不懂他想說什麼
: 但覺得他的詩很有想像力 小孩大點會給他們讀
: 默,



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标  题: Re: Shel Silverstein的儿童诗
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Sep 27 20:56:48 2014, 美东)

您別嫉妒了...姐...

【 在 wh (wh) 的大作中提到: 】
: 嫉妒你……还有姐……



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标  题: Re: Shel Silverstein的儿童诗
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Sep 27 21:04:49 2014, 美东)

不知道为啥这个老帖被翻起来。我也翻拍过很多silverstein的亦诗亦画,本来是想抄
诗,但画没法抄,有些诗离不开画,配得太好了。

后来听过一首他和john cash合唱的a boy named sue,又辛酸又温和又幽默,跟他的诗
风一样。要是你没听过的话推荐听:

今天偶然在网上看到Shel Silverstein和六七十年代的乡村、摇滚歌星John Cash同台
演出的视频,才知道光头大哥也写歌词,弹吉他,唱歌。他谦虚快乐地说“can’t
believe I’m singing with Johnny Cash”,毫不在意自己的名声。他用怪炸的高音
配着John Cash的著名的低音,他的光头闪着柔和的光——是舞台光线效果好吧。他们
合唱的一段“A Boy Named Sue”是当年葛莱美乡村音乐获奖曲,是John Cash最畅销的
单曲。歌词再次体现了光头大哥对人性的宽待——三岁时被酗酒的父亲遗弃的男孩,唯
一痛恨的是父亲给他取的Sue这个娘娘腔的名字。他从小学会用暴力反击他人的嘲笑,
并发誓要杀了给他取名的男人。他长大后在一个破落的酒吧遇到他破落的父亲,两人从
凶狠肉搏到刀枪相见:
“He went for his gun and I pulled mine first,
He stood there lookin' at me and I saw him smile. ”
一幕即将上演的人伦惨剧又一次被光头大哥娴熟地扭转成平局:老爸说世界是残酷的,
我给你取个女人的名字,是为了让你学会你现在所有的强硬。和《The Giving Tree》
一样,读者对父亲的责难、对儿子的惋惜等道德不平感在此刻又找到了平衡,父子及读
者重归于好。

《A Boy Named Sue》的歌词充满市井少年的生动的粗话,是篇出色又曲折的成长故事
。光头大哥和John Cash合唱完一段后,又单独唱了一首纯正父爱的“Daddy, What If
”,其中装小孩的腔调十分活泼调皮。数年之后,他给《A Boy Named Sue》写了个续
曲,说只从孩子角度写爸爸不公平,要换一个老爸的角度——《The Father of a Boy
Named Sue》。这首歌词也像前一首一样既辛酸又幽默,比如“I was gettin drunk
but gettin by/Gettin old and going from bad to worse”,比如“He's screaming
about Sigmund Freud and looking grim – woo”。如果用一个词来描述光头大哥,
那就是善意的幽默。

附Shel Silverstein和John Cash合唱的视频、《A Boy Named Sue》及《The Father
of a Boy Named Sue》的歌词:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e5ZVIpB4sw


A Boy Named Sue (1969)

My daddy left home when I was three
And he didn't leave much to ma and me
Just this old guitar and an empty bottle of booze.
Now, I don't blame him cause he run and hid
But the meanest thing that he ever did
Was before he left, he went and named me "Sue."

Well, he must o' thought that is quite a joke
And it got a lot of laughs from a' lots of folk,
It seems I had to fight my whole life through.
Some gal would giggle and I'd get red
And some guy'd laugh and I'd bust his head,
I tell ya, life ain't easy for a boy named "Sue."

Well, I grew up quick and I grew up mean,
My fist got hard and my wits got keen,
I'd roam from town to town to hide my shame.
But I made a vow to the moon and stars
That I'd search the honky-tonks and bars
And kill that man who gave me that awful name.

Well, it was Gatlinburg in mid-July
And I just hit town and my throat was dry,
I thought I'd stop and have myself a brew.
At an old saloon on a street of mud,
There at a table, dealing stud,
Sat the dirty, mangy dog that named me "Sue."

Well, I knew that snake was my own sweet dad
From a worn-out picture that my mother'd had,
And I knew that scar on his cheek and his evil eye.
He was big and bent and gray and old,
And I looked at him and my blood ran cold
And I said: "My name is 'Sue!' How do you do!
Now your gonna die!!"

Well, I hit him hard right between the eyes
And he went down, but to my surprise,
He come up with a knife and cut off a piece of my ear.
But I busted a chair right across his teeth
And we crashed through the wall and into the street
Kicking and a' gouging in the mud and the blood and the beer.

I tell ya, I've fought tougher men
But I really can't remember when,
He kicked like a mule and he bit like a crocodile.
I heard him laugh and then I heard him cuss,
He went for his gun and I pulled mine first,
He stood there lookin' at me and I saw him smile.

And he said: "Son, this world is rough
And if a man's gonna make it, he's gotta be tough
And I knew I wouldn't be there to help ya along.
So I give ya that name and I said goodbye
I knew you'd have to get tough or die
And it's the name that helped to make you strong."

He said: "Now you just fought one hell of a fight
And I know you hate me, and you got the right
To kill me now, and I wouldn't blame you if you do.
But ya ought to thank me, before I die,
For the gravel in ya guts and the spit in ya eye
Cause I'm the son-of-a-bitch that named you "Sue.'"

I got all choked up and I threw down my gun
And I called him my pa, and he called me his son,
And I came away with a different point of view.
And I think about him, now and then,
Every time I try and every time I win,
And if I ever have a son, I think I'm gonna name him
Bill or George! Anything but Sue! I still hate that name!


The Father of a Boy Named Sue (1978)
Intro by Shel Silverstein

OK, now, years ago, I wrote a song called "A Boy Named Sue", And,
that was OK and everything except, then I started to think about it,
and I thought, It is unfair. I am, I am looking at the whole thing
from the poor kid's point of view. And as I get more older and more
fatherly, I begin to look at things from old men's point of view.
So, I decided to give the old man equal time. OK, here we go...

Yeah, I left home when the kid was three
And it sure felt good to be fancy free
Though I knew it wasn't quite the the fatherly thing to do
But that kid kept screaming and throwing up
And pissing in his pants till I had enough
So just for revenge I went and named him Sue
Yeah!

It was Gatlinburg in mid July
I was gettin drunk but gettin by
Gettin old and going from bad to worse

When through the door with an awful scream
Comes the ugliest queen I've ever seen
He says, "My name is Sue, how do you do?"
Then he hits me with his purse

Now this ain't the way he tells the tell
But he scratched my face with his fingernails
And Then he bit my thumb
And kicked me with his high heel shoe

So I hit him in the nose and he started to cry
And he threw some perfume in my eye
And it sure ain't easy fightin an old boy named Sue

So I hit him in the head with a cane back chair
And he screamed, "Hey dad, you mussed my hair!"
And he hit me in the navel and knocked out a piece of my lint

He was spittin blood, I was spittin teeth
And we crashed through the wall and out into the street
Kickin and gouging in the mud and the blood and the creme de menthe

Then out of his garter he pulls a gun
I'm about to get shot by my very own son
He's screaming about Sigmund Freud and looking grim - woo
So I though fast and I told him some stuff
How I named him Sue just to make him tough
And I guess he bought it cause now I'm living with him

Yea he cooks and sews and cleans up the place
He cuts my hair and shaves my face
And irons my shirts better than a daughter could do
And on the nights that I can't score
Well, I can't tell you any more
But it sure is a joy to have a boy named Sue
Yeah a son is fun but it's a joy to have a boy named Sue!



【 在 LandFish (不会游泳的鱼) 的大作中提到: 】
: 赞!喜欢他的诗!
: 我们哥三本都看过。我也读过。(我知道Shel Silverstein还是我们哥介绍的,汗!)
: 上几个有趣的。Well, 最后两个其实很sad.



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标  题: Re: Shel Silverstein的儿童诗
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Sep 27 21:05:57 2014, 美东)

大哥……咱两头大了……哈哈。

【 在 Bremen (獨孤求坑) 的大作中提到: 】
: 您別嫉妒了...姐...



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