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[合集] 两起toyota车祸明明是脑残司机造

发信人: jackrun (SS*SDeveloper), 信区: Automobile
标  题: [合集] 两起toyota车祸明明是脑残司机造就
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Feb 28 16:29:56 2010, 美东)


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  aptget (apt) 于 (Thu Jan 28 13:54:54 2010, 美东) 提到:

不能说toyota车没问题,据说drive by wire有时候会出问题,不过这两起车祸并不是
车子的问题。

垫子的问题不说了,不是什么机械问题,和车子的设计也没太大关系。

另一起车祸那司机根本没踩刹车,估计就是一脚错踩了油门,还以为是刹车:

http://lewisvilleblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/01/police-stumped-on-cause-of-sou.html

"This is as far as we can go at this time," said Officer Roderick Page, a
Southlake Police Department spokesman. "Our investigation is over, and our
findings are inconclusive."

The road was not icy at the time of the crash, and there were no skid marks
or other indication that the driver attempted to put on the brakes.

Southlake police were assisted in their investigation by the National
Highway Traffic Safety Administration and a Toyota engineer




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  barometer (barometer) 于 (Thu Jan 28 13:56:42 2010, 美东) 提到:


【 在 aptget (apt) 的大作中提到: 】
: 不能说toyota车没问题,据说drive by wire有时候会出问题,不过这两起车祸并不是
: 车子的问题。
: 垫子的问题不说了,不是什么机械问题,和车子的设计也没太大关系。
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~????
垫子,靠
: 另一起车祸那司机根本没踩刹车,估计就是一脚错踩了油门,还以为是刹车:
: http://lewisvilleblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/01/police-stumped-on-cause-of-sou.html
: "This is as far as we can go at this time," said Officer Roderick Page, a
: Southlake Police Department spokesman. "Our investigation is over, and our
: findings are inconclusive."
: The road was not icy at the time of the crash, and there were no skid
marks
: or other indication that the driver attempted to put on the brakes.
: ...................





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  aptget (apt) 于 (Thu Jan 28 13:59:18 2010, 美东) 提到:

就事论事,你有什么证据说这两起车祸和质量问题有关?

【 在 crystalcock (晓鸡 | 赶紧的) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你的日本爹最近给你多少屎吃了啊
: marks






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  aptget (apt) 于 (Thu Jan 28 14:01:49 2010, 美东) 提到:

垫子这种问题根本就是个案,自己没放好而已。

【 在 barometer (barometer) 的大作中提到: 】
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~????
: 垫子,靠
: marks







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  barometer (barometer) 于 (Thu Jan 28 14:03:01 2010, 美东) 提到:

那就是dealer谋财害命了
因为那Lexus是人家去维护dealer提供的代步车
【 在 aptget (apt) 的大作中提到: 】
: 垫子这种问题根本就是个案,或者自己没放好而已。






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  latexcat (walking cat on street) 于 (Thu Jan 28 14:07:22 2010, 美东) 提到:

他自己去乞讨的.
【 在 crystalcock (晓鸡 | 赶紧的) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你的日本爹最近给你多少屎吃了啊
: marks






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  littlecookie (小点心) 于 (Thu Jan 28 14:07:47 2010, 美东) 提到:

......

【 在 crystalcock (晓鸡 | 赶紧的) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你的日本爹最近给你多少屎吃了啊
: marks






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  Ktar (Kta) 于 (Thu Jan 28 14:09:12 2010, 美东) 提到:

这个版有像天涯发展的趋势.



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  aptget (apt) 于 (Thu Jan 28 14:10:03 2010, 美东) 提到:

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/daily-news/090917-Toyota-Lexus-Dealers-Will-Inspect-Floor-Mats-After-Tragic-Accident/

Four people were riding in the Lexus ES350, which a dealer had loaned to the
family while their own car was serviced. Crash investigators haven't
released a final conclusion, but told reporters that a driver's-side all-
weather floor mat found at the scene doesn't match the ES 350.

都不是原配的垫子。

【 在 barometer (barometer) 的大作中提到: 】
: 那就是dealer谋财害命了
: 因为那Lexus是人家去维护dealer提供的代步车






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  abalone (hope) 于 (Thu Jan 28 14:14:21 2010, 美东) 提到:

well you cannot rule that out.

Yesterday someone posted a video from edmund shows that floor mats can
indeed cause problems.

I cannot understand why you guys hope it is electronic problem so much.
If it is indeed electronic problem, toyota will not fix it for sure.

Does it do anything good to you?
Even you don't drive toyota, the auto-accelerated toyota may hit you anyway.


【 在 barometer (barometer) 的大作中提到: 】
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~????
: 垫子,靠
: marks






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  barometer (barometer) 于 (Thu Jan 28 14:16:24 2010, 美东) 提到:

那就是dealer想杀人灭口,吞下修理的车
【 在 aptget (apt) 的大作中提到: 】
: http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/daily-news/090917-Toyota-Lexus-Dealers-Will-Inspect-Floor-Mats-After-Tragic-Accident/
: Four people were riding in the Lexus ES350, which a dealer had loaned to
the
:  family while their own car was serviced. Crash investigators haven't
: released a final conclusion, but told reporters that a driver's-side all-
: weather floor mat found at the scene doesn't match the ES 350.
: 都不是原配的垫子。






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  barometer (barometer) 于 (Thu Jan 28 14:19:39 2010, 美东) 提到:

我没认为是电子原因,我不是专家也搞不懂
但是我也不认为是简单的垫子问题
我开一辆杂牌车,美车正牌车争论与我无关
照你的说法,掩耳盗铃,或者大家都认为是垫子问题就万事大吉了????
世界就一片太平了,大家就可以在路上相安无事了?
晕死
【 在 abalone (hope) 的大作中提到: 】
: well you cannot rule that out.
: Yesterday someone posted a video from edmund shows that floor mats can
: indeed cause problems.
: I cannot understand why you guys hope it is electronic problem so much.
: If it is indeed electronic problem, toyota will not fix it for sure.
: Does it do anything good to you?
: Even you don't drive toyota, the auto-accelerated toyota may hit you
anyway.






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  yourtt (rainmaker) 于 (Thu Jan 28 14:22:11 2010, 美东) 提到:

It is not like someone hope it is electronic problem. It is just people
would like to know what exactly is the problem.

If it is the electronic problem, which is being covered by toyota. That will
only means more troubled cars will be on the road, and everyone including
toyota owners or non-toyota owner will eventually have even bigger problems.


【 在 abalone (hope) 的大作中提到: 】
: well you cannot rule that out.
: Yesterday someone posted a video from edmund shows that floor mats can
: indeed cause problems.
: I cannot understand why you guys hope it is electronic problem so much.
: If it is indeed electronic problem, toyota will not fix it for sure.
: Does it do anything good to you?
: Even you don't drive toyota, the auto-accelerated toyota may hit you
anyway.






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  Corinthian (Diogenes门下一走狗) 于 (Thu Jan 28 14:22:29 2010, 美东) 提到:

支持


没有安全的车,主要是脑掺的司机

驾驶者技术不好,自然会有各种加速撞车问题

我坚信丰田会证明自己的清白






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  pxjdream (made in china) 于 (Thu Jan 28 14:22:56 2010, 美东) 提到:

楼主这算行为艺术么?

【 在 aptget (apt) 的大作中提到: 】
: 不能说toyota车没问题,据说drive by wire有时候会出问题,不过这两起车祸并不是
: 车子的问题。
: 垫子的问题不说了,不是什么机械问题,和车子的设计也没太大关系。
: 另一起车祸那司机根本没踩刹车,估计就是一脚错踩了油门,还以为是刹车:
: http://lewisvilleblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/01/police-stumped-on-cause-of-sou.html
: "This is as far as we can go at this time," said Officer Roderick Page, a
: Southlake Police Department spokesman. "Our investigation is over, and our
: findings are inconclusive."
: The road was not icy at the time of the crash, and there were no skid
marks
: or other indication that the driver attempted to put on the brakes.
: ...................






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  windloren (feral cat == 弃猫) 于 (Thu Jan 28 14:24:33 2010, 美东) 提到:

真是迅雷不及掩耳盗铃啊


【 在 aptget (apt) 的大作中提到: 】
: 不能说toyota车没问题,据说drive by wire有时候会出问题,不过这两起车祸并不是
: 车子的问题。
: 垫子的问题不说了,不是什么机械问题,和车子的设计也没太大关系。
: 另一起车祸那司机根本没踩刹车,估计就是一脚错踩了油门,还以为是刹车:
: http://lewisvilleblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/01/police-stumped-on-cause-of-sou.html
: "This is as far as we can go at this time," said Officer Roderick Page, a
: Southlake Police Department spokesman. "Our investigation is over, and our
: findings are inconclusive."
: The road was not icy at the time of the crash, and there were no skid
marks
: or other indication that the driver attempted to put on the brakes.
: ...................






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  marinmarin (人生若只如初见) 于 (Thu Jan 28 14:27:49 2010, 美东) 提到:

法哥杀到买买提了。。。
【 在 Ktar (Kta) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这个版有像天涯发展的趋势.






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  aptget (apt) 于 (Thu Jan 28 14:28:28 2010, 美东) 提到:

http://kansascity.injuryboard.com/automobile-accidents/toyota-sudden-acceleration-case-is-not-closed.aspx?googleid=273964

ABC reported statistics from safety expert, Sean Kane, that in the last 10
years, more than 2,000 Toyota owners have reported their cars surged out of
control at high speeds.

10年2000起突然加速案例,也不是toyota独占,大概40%。这些里面的少数出了车祸,
其中有多少属于当事人律师和保险公司推卸责任也不知道。司机脑残是车祸最大的起因




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  aptget (apt) 于 (Thu Jan 28 14:32:27 2010, 美东) 提到:

right, also the significance of the problem.
electronic controllers are becoming more common in all brands, and it's good
to know how safe they are.

【 在 yourtt (rainmaker) 的大作中提到: 】
: It is not like someone hope it is electronic problem. It is just people
: would like to know what exactly is the problem.
: If it is the electronic problem, which is being covered by toyota. That
will
:  only means more troubled cars will be on the road, and everyone including
: toyota owners or non-toyota owner will eventually have even bigger
problems.
: anyway.






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  windloren (feral cat == 弃猫) 于 (Thu Jan 28 14:33:34 2010, 美东) 提到:

哪里有说不是Toyota独占?通篇都是说不少Toyota owner说自己车有无法控制的加速问题


【 在 aptget (apt) 的大作中提到: 】
: http://kansascity.injuryboard.com/automobile-accidents/toyota-sudden-acceleration-case-is-not-closed.aspx?googleid=273964
: ABC reported statistics from safety expert, Sean Kane, that in the last 10
: years, more than 2,000 Toyota owners have reported their cars surged out
of
: control at high speeds.
: 10年2000起突然加速案例,也不是toyota独占,大概40%。这些里面的少数出了车祸,
: 其中有多少属于当事人律师和保险公司推卸责任也不知道。司机脑残是车祸最大的起因
: 。






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  aptget (apt) 于 (Thu Jan 28 14:35:18 2010, 美东) 提到:

sorry,我的意思是这2000起占所有突然加速案的40%(另一篇有说到,抱歉没连接)。
toyota is a little overrepresented, but not alone.

【 在 windloren (feral cat == 弃猫) 的大作中提到: 】
: 哪里有说不是Toyota独占?通篇都是说不少Toyota owner说自己车有无法控制的加速
问题
: of






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  windloren (feral cat == 弃猫) 于 (Thu Jan 28 14:59:06 2010, 美东) 提到:

丰田为何要如此坚决的否定不是电子问题?即使电子线路,程序设计上已经做到万无一
失。电子器件在不同环境下会有不同的寿命,而且某批次的器件有可能相对容易失效。
这都可能是造成这种情况的原因。

假如是电子问题,丰田为什么不修?就是破产都得修。不修就等着接传票吧。

丰田假如有责任心,就该查明原因。其他汽车制造商也可以引以为鉴,也许其他厂商的
车也有这种类似问题,他们查清原因对所有人都有好处。

即使我被一辆自动加速的丰田撞到,别让我的墓碑上刻“此人死于一块脚垫的无意误杀”



【 在 abalone (hope) 的大作中提到: 】
: well you cannot rule that out.
: Yesterday someone posted a video from edmund shows that floor mats can
: indeed cause problems.
: I cannot understand why you guys hope it is electronic problem so much.
: If it is indeed electronic problem, toyota will not fix it for sure.
: Does it do anything good to you?
: Even you don't drive toyota, the auto-accelerated toyota may hit you
anyway.






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  RoadKilla (大波小波一起抓) 于 (Thu Jan 28 15:08:39 2010, 美东) 提到:

Did NHTSA know of Toyota woes back in 2004?

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/28/did-nhtsa-know-of-toyota-woes-back-in-2004/

Interesting story.



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  abalone (hope) 于 (Thu Jan 28 15:09:39 2010, 美东) 提到:

Well,
unintended accelaration is not only for toyota
if you search on google, you can find a lot of cases, including honda, audi,
bmw,ford, even gmc. Like SanLu died in china, but MengNiu, YiLi all have
problems.

The problem is that many people here just hope all toyota owners die to
prove their smart choice of taurus. They are evil and I hate these people.

We hope toyota won't cover the real problem and fix it. But floormats could
be the problem. Actually I hope that is the truth.

 
【 在 windloren (feral cat == 弃猫) 的大作中提到: 】
: 丰田为何要如此坚决的否定不是电子问题?即使电子线路,程序设计上已经做到万无一
: 失。电子器件在不同环境下会有不同的寿命,而且某批次的器件有可能相对容易失效。
: 这都可能是造成这种情况的原因。
: 假如是电子问题,丰田为什么不修?就是破产都得修。不修就等着接传票吧。
: 丰田假如有责任心,就该查明原因。其他汽车制造商也可以引以为鉴,也许其他厂商的
: 车也有这种类似问题,他们查清原因对所有人都有好处。
: 即使我被一辆自动加速的丰田撞到,别让我的墓碑上刻“此人死于一块脚垫的无意误
杀”
: anyway.






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  RoadKilla (大波小波一起抓) 于 (Thu Jan 28 15:15:13 2010, 美东) 提到:

Didi you read the story I poste above ??

We don't pay any attention to your DFBB fans

We just hate the liars

sometimes we point out the fact that Toyota shit on you dfbb fans's face

and you guys just get mad

sorry.

【 在 abalone (hope) 的大作中提到: 】
: Well,
: unintended accelaration is not only for toyota
: if you search on google, you can find a lot of cases, including honda,
audi,
:  bmw,ford, even gmc. Like SanLu died in china, but MengNiu, YiLi all have
: problems.
: The problem is that many people here just hope all toyota owners die to
: prove their smart choice of taurus. They are evil and I hate these people.
: We hope toyota won't cover the real problem and fix it. But floormats
could
: be the problem. Actually I hope that is the truth.
:  
: ...................






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  abalone (hope) 于 (Thu Jan 28 15:16:57 2010, 美东) 提到:

How many times have you (or other similar id like MAATS, dachangjin, etc)
curse a DFBB owner die?

I don't really believe you just want to know the truth.

【 在 RoadKilla (大波小波一起抓) 的大作中提到: 】
: Didi you read the story I poste above ??
: We don't pay any attention to your DFBB fans
: We just hate the liars
: sometimes we point out the fact that Toyota shit on you dfbb fans's face
: and you guys just get mad
: sorry.
: audi,
: could






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  windloren (feral cat == 弃猫) 于 (Thu Jan 28 15:17:19 2010, 美东) 提到:

既然这种问题已经普遍存在,而其他公司已经早已就这个可能性招回过相关的车,为什
么就丰田能够在这么长的时间内以脚垫来作为理由呢?

用户的安全不及厂商的门面?


【 在 abalone (hope) 的大作中提到: 】
: Well,
: unintended accelaration is not only for toyota
: if you search on google, you can find a lot of cases, including honda,
audi,
:  bmw,ford, even gmc. Like SanLu died in china, but MengNiu, YiLi all have
: problems.
: The problem is that many people here just hope all toyota owners die to
: prove their smart choice of taurus. They are evil and I hate these people.
: We hope toyota won't cover the real problem and fix it. But floormats
could
: be the problem. Actually I hope that is the truth.
:  
: ...................






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  abalone (hope) 于 (Thu Jan 28 15:18:40 2010, 美东) 提到:

I hope they are not covering the truth.
But there is no much we can do here.

【 在 windloren (feral cat == 弃猫) 的大作中提到: 】
: 既然这种问题已经普遍存在,而其他公司已经早已就这个可能性招回过相关的车,为什
: 么就丰田能够在这么长的时间内以脚垫来作为理由呢?
: 用户的安全不及厂商的门面?
: audi,
: could






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  RoadKilla (大波小波一起抓) 于 (Thu Jan 28 15:22:54 2010, 美东) 提到:

We curse some professional toyota 50 cent
such as chairman, fexlicat , do you think these full of shit b*tches care
about your dfbb owner's saftey ?
For your normal dfbb owners I just don't care. sometimes I can help for
mechanic check suggestions,that's it
We know toyota is the untimate liar for years, yes that's the truth we
already know.

【 在 abalone (hope) 的大作中提到: 】
: How many times have you (or other similar id like MAATS, dachangjin, etc)
: curse a DFBB owner die?
: I don't really believe you just want to know the truth.






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  windloren (feral cat == 弃猫) 于 (Thu Jan 28 15:24:43 2010, 美东) 提到:

假如连用户都这么想,我就能明白为什么丰田能这么长时间以一个脚垫作为理由了。


【 在 abalone (hope) 的大作中提到: 】
: I hope they are not covering the truth.
: But there is no much we can do here.






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  aptget (apt) 于 (Thu Jan 28 15:52:09 2010, 美东) 提到:

大家去看看这篇吧,结论是,油门和刹车一起踩的话,基本上任何汽车都能停下来。

http://mfes.com/suddenaccel.html





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  pb01011053 (waiting) 于 (Thu Jan 28 17:30:12 2010, 美东) 提到:

agree, good points.

【 在 abalone (hope) 的大作中提到: 】
: Well,
: unintended accelaration is not only for toyota
: if you search on google, you can find a lot of cases, including honda,
audi,
:  bmw,ford, even gmc. Like SanLu died in china, but MengNiu, YiLi all have
: problems.
: The problem is that many people here just hope all toyota owners die to
: prove their smart choice of taurus. They are evil and I hate these people.
: We hope toyota won't cover the real problem and fix it. But floormats
could
: be the problem. Actually I hope that is the truth.
:  
: ...................






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  macrocisco (最青的蛙) 于 (Fri Feb  5 15:30:29 2010, 美东) 提到:

cao.
【 在 aptget (apt) 的大作中提到: 】
: 不能说toyota车没问题,据说drive by wire有时候会出问题,不过这两起车祸并不是
: 车子的问题。
: 垫子的问题不说了,不是什么机械问题,和车子的设计也没太大关系。
: 另一起车祸那司机根本没踩刹车,估计就是一脚错踩了油门,还以为是刹车:
: http://lewisvilleblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/01/police-stumped-on-cause-of-sou.html
: "This is as far as we can go at this time," said Officer Roderick Page, a
: Southlake Police Department spokesman. "Our investigation is over, and our
: findings are inconclusive."
: The road was not icy at the time of the crash, and there were no skid
marks
: or other indication that the driver attempted to put on the brakes.
: ...................





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  macrocisco (最青的蛙) 于 (Fri Feb  5 15:31:00 2010, 美东) 提到:

really sb
【 在 aptget (apt) 的大作中提到: 】
: 不能说toyota车没问题,据说drive by wire有时候会出问题,不过这两起车祸并不是
: 车子的问题。
: 垫子的问题不说了,不是什么机械问题,和车子的设计也没太大关系。
: 另一起车祸那司机根本没踩刹车,估计就是一脚错踩了油门,还以为是刹车:
: http://lewisvilleblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/01/police-stumped-on-cause-of-sou.html
: "This is as far as we can go at this time," said Officer Roderick Page, a
: Southlake Police Department spokesman. "Our investigation is over, and our
: findings are inconclusive."
: The road was not icy at the time of the crash, and there were no skid
marks
: or other indication that the driver attempted to put on the brakes.
: ...................





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  michael3770 (Waiting) 于 (Sun Feb  7 10:16:55 2010, 美东) 提到:

兰州烧饼
在加州当了19年高速巡警的人
比你脑残?



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  willdong (niubi) 于 (Sun Feb  7 12:00:16 2010, 美东) 提到:

那你去看看这个,2分半以后
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6128551n&tag=related;photovideo
事实是偷油獭没法停下来
jetta没问题


【 在 aptget (apt) 的大作中提到: 】
: 大家去看看这篇吧,结论是,油门和刹车一起踩的话,基本上任何汽车都能停下来。
: http://mfes.com/suddenaccel.html






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  felixcat (felixcat) 于 (Sun Feb  7 13:07:10 2010, 美东) 提到:

这里我接过话题说一说,其实车版上的一些“curse”现象,curse者的动力并不一定来
自于车子本身。有一些人不单只在车版上是这个模样,在其他版面上一样都是同样的粗
言秽语风格。

说个例子,我听说啊(当然没有确证啦),比如有一个人,因为很多时间花在上网上面
,并且都是去一些对学业没帮助的类如足球、炒股版之类的(当然这方面知识倒是攒了
一些),所以phd读了好多好多年都毕业不了,也不去找工作。毕不了业就不够钱买新
车,所以旧车有时就出毛病要修,没车用。但是他又贪玩,所以周末硬要蹭别人的车出
去郊游(他那个地方气候好,很适合旅游)。一车人原本就商量好负责出车的那人不用
负担油钱,乘客们最后平分油钱。不知道他那天扯哪根筋了,最后就说自己原本不想坐
他们车的,只是后来车坏了才迫不得已,所以他自己是不会给油钱的。其实就那么几刀
而已。开车的人那时就半开玩笑地对他说了一句“没想到你会这样”,结果他就把人家
给恨上了,恰好那人开的是日本车,所以从那天之后他就180度大改变,一看到有人说
日本车就像被暗中踩了下尾巴......其实那天的人都很厚道,没把这事记心上也没给别
人说,所以跟他同校的并且也是车版上常客的一些其他人都不知道他有过这么一档子事
。后来开车的人来开会,跟我聊起娱乐版上的千奇百怪,开车的人才无意中说起他原本
不是这个样子的......

故事不短,只是想说娱乐版上的东西你不要看得太认真,背后的故事多着呢。把事情看
淡一点,千万不要去较真。


【 在 abalone (hope) 的大作中提到: 】
: How many times have you (or other similar id like MAATS, dachangjin, etc)
: curse a DFBB owner die?
: I don't really believe you just want to know the truth.






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  Water999 (Water999) 于 (Sun Feb  7 14:07:08 2010, 美东) 提到:

这咋地了,怎么这么说话呢,你有能耐去日本干点啥,别这么说话,能量很多就坐飞机
吧,看吧你憋得

【 在 crystalcock (晓鸡 | 赶紧的) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你的日本爹最近给你多少屎吃了啊
: marks






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  brussel (brush) 于 (Mon Feb  8 13:47:54 2010, 美东) 提到:

到现在还把丰田的不负责任和质量问题推卸给脚垫,甚至踏板供应商,甚至无耻到推卸
给司机,已经不是脑残的问题,而是丧尽天良的问题。


【 在 aptget (apt) 的大作中提到: 】
: 不能说toyota车没问题,据说drive by wire有时候会出问题,不过这两起车祸并不是
: 车子的问题。
: 垫子的问题不说了,不是什么机械问题,和车子的设计也没太大关系。
: 另一起车祸那司机根本没踩刹车,估计就是一脚错踩了油门,还以为是刹车:
: http://lewisvilleblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/01/police-stumped-on-cause-of-sou.html
: "This is as far as we can go at this time," said Officer Roderick Page, a
: Southlake Police Department spokesman. "Our investigation is over, and our
: findings are inconclusive."
: The road was not icy at the time of the crash, and there were no skid
marks
: or other indication that the driver attempted to put on the brakes.
: ...................






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  antee (蚂蚁) 于 (Mon Feb  8 15:48:28 2010, 美东) 提到:

有一起车祸店子在后备箱
【 在 abalone (hope) 的大作中提到: 】
: well you cannot rule that out.
: Yesterday someone posted a video from edmund shows that floor mats can
: indeed cause problems.
: I cannot understand why you guys hope it is electronic problem so much.
: If it is indeed electronic problem, toyota will not fix it for sure.
: Does it do anything good to you?
: Even you don't drive toyota, the auto-accelerated toyota may hit you
anyway.






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  antee (蚂蚁) 于 (Mon Feb  8 15:50:42 2010, 美东) 提到:

油门到底pump brake会丢真空,
也许就是这个原因没刹车了
inconclusive的东西到你这成driver问题了?
另外,外面有近3000起类似的事情

【 在 aptget (apt) 的大作中提到: 】
: 不能说toyota车没问题,据说drive by wire有时候会出问题,不过这两起车祸并不是
: 车子的问题。
: 垫子的问题不说了,不是什么机械问题,和车子的设计也没太大关系。
: 另一起车祸那司机根本没踩刹车,估计就是一脚错踩了油门,还以为是刹车:
: http://lewisvilleblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/01/police-stumped-on-cause-of-sou.html
: "This is as far as we can go at this time," said Officer Roderick Page, a
: Southlake Police Department spokesman. "Our investigation is over, and our
: findings are inconclusive."
: The road was not icy at the time of the crash, and there were no skid
marks
: or other indication that the driver attempted to put on the brakes.
: ...................






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  antee (蚂蚁) 于 (Mon Feb  8 15:57:05 2010, 美东) 提到:

you hate them b/c they don't believe in toyota?
Man, finally, Toyota becomes a religion.

when ppl's life at risk, we should ask all the possibilities
rather than just hope floormat will fix it. remember,
such problem put everyone on the road at risk, not just toyota driver.

【 在 abalone (hope) 的大作中提到: 】
: Well,
: unintended accelaration is not only for toyota
: if you search on google, you can find a lot of cases, including honda,
audi,
:  bmw,ford, even gmc. Like SanLu died in china, but MengNiu, YiLi all have
: problems.
: The problem is that many people here just hope all toyota owners die to
: prove their smart choice of taurus. They are evil and I hate these people.
: We hope toyota won't cover the real problem and fix it. But floormats
could
: be the problem. Actually I hope that is the truth.
:  
: ...................






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  antee (蚂蚁) 于 (Mon Feb  8 16:00:09 2010, 美东) 提到:

if you are an owner, you should speak out. at least not helping on the
coverups.
you, as customer, if act together, will make a difference.

【 在 abalone (hope) 的大作中提到: 】
: I hope they are not covering the truth.
: But there is no much we can do here.






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  qqzl (风马驴相及) 于 (Mon Feb  8 16:49:10 2010, 美东) 提到:

恩,根本就不用召回。车是好车,人是孬人。人应该为神车服务。只能说那些人不配开
神车。

【 在 aptget (apt) 的大作中提到: 】
: 不能说toyota车没问题,据说drive by wire有时候会出问题,不过这两起车祸并不是
: 车子的问题。
: 垫子的问题不说了,不是什么机械问题,和车子的设计也没太大关系。
: 另一起车祸那司机根本没踩刹车,估计就是一脚错踩了油门,还以为是刹车:
: http://lewisvilleblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/01/police-stumped-on-cause-of-sou.html
: "This is as far as we can go at this time," said Officer Roderick Page, a
: Southlake Police Department spokesman. "Our investigation is over, and our
: findings are inconclusive."
: The road was not icy at the time of the crash, and there were no skid
marks
: or other indication that the driver attempted to put on the brakes.
: ...................






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